Running a law firm on Free software

(decoded.legal)

62 points | by DeepLogin 5 hours ago

10 comments

  • skeeter2020 5 minutes ago
    Am I alone in my reaction that I want my lawyer to focus on law-ing, not pretty unique IT? What do I do if something happens to you and another lawyer or paralegal has to step in?
    • tomrod 2 minutes ago
      Businesses don't always want to have their profit sapped by overeager SaaS allegedly allowing said firm to focus on the business. Like all operating decisions, it is a cost/benefit tradeoff.

      Like Intuit raising quickbook prices by 20% every few months.

  • theturtletalks 1 hour ago
    These law firms all using Harvey don’t know that they are giving Harvey everything they need to integrate vertically and become the Amazon for law. Then you are at their whim for every client. Also, AI doesn’t give you an edge if everyone is using the same cookie cutter solution.
    • bix6 26 minutes ago
      We use Carta for work and that is my fear with them.
  • Tomte 41 minutes ago
    I‘ve heard it said earlier this year at a legal workshop that not using Microsoft Word in your law firm amounts to malpractice.

    That was from a well known, respected, and long-time American Open Source lawyer.

    • droidjj 2 minutes ago
      [I am a US lawyer]

      It's definitely not categorically malpractice to not use Word. Depends entirely on the situation. If a court demands docx and you file an rtf, or you refuse to read a client's redlines because they're in Word, sure, that could be malpractice.

      The only proprietary software that I think _might_ be malpractice not to use is a legal research service with a capable citator, like Westlaw or LexisNexis. If you rely on a case that was overruled, you can't defend a malpractice suit by saying, "I didn't want to pay for the software."

      I hear CourtListener (a free legal research tool) is working on a citator--hopefully it's competitive with the paid services.

    • mushufasa 2 minutes ago
      Not a lawyer but have hired many lawyers and had to interact with them: I agree this is correct.
    • jrm4 29 minutes ago
      Upvoting because it's an interesting statement, and also probably wrong?

      As a techy person with a law degree that doesn't really practice any more, the "silos" of what each lawyer thinks is and isn't a "must have" is interesting, as well as the huge differences in rates and types of tech adoption; a huge factor here is probably administrative assistants who do a lot of heavy lifting.

    • tiahura 28 minutes ago
      That’s recently changed.

      Wordcraft is now a decent Word clone and is leaps and bounds over OpenOffice.

      • physPop 11 minutes ago
        its pre release no one doing real work is going to risk their income on an alpha test
      • piker 8 minutes ago
        What's the point of saving $25 bucks or whatever a Word license is to use a vibe coded application?
  • netshade 17 minutes ago
    As an aside: decoded.legal looks like an amazing resource for folks based in UK / EU that need legal w software expertise. I haven’t easily found similar folks in the US: does anyone have good recommendations for this?
  • alexpotato 1 hour ago
    > Text expansion: espanso

    Have always loved that text shortcuts work across iOs and MacOs (yay, for integrated walled gardens).

    Wanted the same thing for Linux and it seems like espanso + rsync(or git) for syncing the shortcuts across devices is the way to go.

  • spapas82 42 minutes ago
    My gf is a lawyer with a single-person office and the only software she uses is a word document (advanced from an A4 paper) to write outstanding issues, next appointments, advances etc. As can be understood not very technical.

    Could you recommend me a way to gently introduce some kind of software/automation to her office?

    TIA

    • heresie-dabord 12 minutes ago
      She is comfortable typing in MS Word and she uses a browser (assumed). Start her using a Wiki with Markdown.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_software

      The browser gives viewing, screenshotting, and PDF downloading/viewing for free.

      • skeeter2020 7 minutes ago
        MD is pretty simple, but why would a lawyer want to learn a limited,presentation-oriented syntax? And a wiki? Both of these decisions would make red lining a new, unpleasant adventure, something every lawyer I know does A LOT.
    • bix6 25 minutes ago
      Give her Claude and show her how to ask Claude how to do things. My wife uses it to write mini scripts now for all the annoying repetitive tasks she has. Zero programming background.
      • johndhi 16 minutes ago
        As a lawyer who vibe codes using Claude code all of the time and believes it's the highest value case... I'm going to disagree with this suggestion.

        If she never uses ai at work at all, start with something dead simple: -do research with it -put a large corpus of documents into LLM context and ask questions of it

        That's probably where I'd start.

        • bix6 11 minutes ago
          Fair although I’m surprised lawyers can load privileged info into Claude? But I guess at this point Claude just gets all the worlds data haha
  • WillAdams 24 minutes ago
    Surprised that LyX wasn't in the running as a way to gain access to the power of (La)TeX with a familiar graphical front-end.
  • 99harry 1 hour ago
    My biggest concern is having only one DevOps person. What happens if you get sick or are unavailable? You still need someone with around 5 years of DevOps experience. Being understaffed at critical moments can easily lead to losing customers. Also, how many employees and customers do you have? Do major clients, such as corporations or banks, require security certifications or specific processes? I think customers need to feel they can trust a company that is large enough and capable of taking responsibility, rather than a one-person company.
  • xtiansimon 1 hour ago
    Curious what money software they were using:

    Invoicing and tracking payments: InvoicePlane

    Time tracking: Kimai

    But no ERP? I presume their accountant is doing the books then?

  • obummer 1 hour ago
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